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    Dean thinks Fla and Michigan delegates will be seated.

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    Florida has already decided to let the resulted from the contested primary stand. Since it was the Pug legislature that changed the primary date, they will probably get the sympathy vote and be seated.

    Michigan is at an impasse on how to re-do the primary, so I'm willing to bet that they will be offered "Let the numbers stand and your delegates can be seated".

    Not sure how they'll handle the "uncommitted" numbers.

    Submitted by BlueTigress on March 27, 2008 - 11:41pm.

    At last

    We know where Dean's loyalties lie. Firmly in the
    business as usual inside the belt-way. Since the Pugs
    moved the election up, Dean should give them a large
    hi-five and a big thank you.
    Michigan Dems should with draw from the NDC and form
    their own party, as we did in Minnesota

    Submitted by Old Hippy on March 28, 2008 - 12:03am.

    The full quote from Dean, and some additional context

    "I'd like the other 350 (superdelegates) to say who they're for at some point between now and the first of July so we don't have to take this into the convention."

    . . .

    "I think the delegates are eventually going to be seated in Florida and Michigan, as soon as we get an agreement among the candidates how to do that."

    (My emphasis)

    This isn't anything new - he's been saying for quite some time that any solution of the FL/MI problem needs an agreement from the two camps before it will proceed. I doubt very much that the Obama camp will agree to seating the delegations "as is" unless he has the numbers from the super-delegates to overcome any advantage Clinton would receive.

    Stalemate is still the status quo.

    Submitted by Michael Sheridan on March 28, 2008 - 12:19am.

    A plague on both your houses... (or parties... or candidates...)

    I am still amazed that people still have even an ounce of loyalty to a political organization that has for decades shown itself to be hopelessly inept, corrupt, and compromised beyond belief.

    Bent "rules"... broken "rules"... ever shifting "rules"...

    It is all bullshit.

    The Democratic party operates on the same fundamental precept as the Republican party: that democracy is too important to be left to the people to decide.

    The desperate addiction to "lesser evilism" amongst people who consider themselves liberal or democratic supporters has grown into a debilitating paralysis. It is as though two people who have to decide whether they want to be fucked in the ass by either a cattle prod or a hot branding iron are fighting over the merits of each. Electrocution or burns and scars? What neither of them will admit, once they have staked out their claims, is that THERE ARE NO MERITS... yet people will happily bend over and drop their drawers for the prod or the poker once they have convinced themselves that they are right and the other side is wrong.

    You want to know what the real (and deserved) loser of the 2008 elections is? It is the non-democratic "Democratic Party" primary election process. It is the whole "tradition" of stretching out the selection of a party candidate into a months long farce of a horse race: a spectacle that is designed to make sure that the only candidate that leads at the finish is the one who has made enough promises to corporate backers to have stayed in the race that long.

    As far as I'm concerned, it is a near certainty that McCain will win the selection, by hook or by crook, and that whatever candidate the Democratic party has chosen will run off whimpering with his or her tail between their legs... just like last time.

    You want a suggestion for what to do about it (well... maybe you don't... but here it is anyway), a single day primary vote - all states - one day... no preferencial treatment... no horse race... and no non-party balloting. The decision of a party on who should be its candidate should not be made by people from the outside who are supporting opposing party platforms and candidates. The process of that decision should also not be ordered in such a way as to give some voters either an early say, the final choice, or a do-over vote.

    Having decisions made by all the people at the same time would be fair and just... but what has the Democratic party had to do with either in the last decade?

    Submitted by Spudboy on March 30, 2008 - 1:29am.
     
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